PC advice

[hinch]

OK folks.

I'm thinking of putting together a new PC which until recently I used to be pretty good at but with intel's general processor renaming scheme and the multiple different socket and processor types etc these days i'll be fucked if i have a clue what theyre on about these days.


So Budget is no more than £1300 (including the vat needed to be paid so make sure you add up prices on vat inclusive prices)

What i need is a PC to play games on so gfx card fair amount of drive space lots of ram (at least 2gb) and a dvd drive.

no monitor/keyboard/mouse is nessary although case will be required not fussy for one of these fancy ass things as long as its case and it fits everything in and not turns into a toaster.


I'd appreciate lists of components makes/model numbers etc a url to where you found the item from and its price. also if you could just total it up for me at the bottom you'll be a star :)

[GoDGiRL]

dunno any english sites for computer partsd

http://tweakers.net/reviews/624/4

i guess that without monitor keyboard an shit will be less than 1300 pound.

and if u wanna up that a bit they say:

this mobo:
DFI Lanperty UT CFX3200-DR

and instead of audigy 2 ZS a XFI audigy

[Freek]

www.Scan.co.uk and www.Ebuyer.co.uk are good UK sites, although im a little rusty with my hardware so I wont try and piece something together yet :3 Im looking for a PC myself when I get some money in.

[GoDGiRL]

the thing i posted is from a HUGE computer nerd site over here, those fags know everything, every review, every fps gain/loss, conflict etc, and they make monthly guides of what to buy for a certain purpose/budget, the one i posted is high-end gaming.

[GoDGiRL]

http://www.ebuyer.co.uk/customer/shopping/index.html?rb=18808185770&action=c2hvd2NhcnQ=

£1158.47
excluding processor fan lol. I guess if you took that uprated motherboard + fan youd be just below 1250.

[hinch]

gg no cart saving thats why i asked you to post a list of all the bits in here :)

[Kjeldoran]

Get the AMD 64 ... My brother has it (with a 256mb gfx card and 2gb ram) and it rocks.

unlike my pc ... :(

[Caras]

is dual core dual processor still the rave?

don't know for gaming, but for 3d work that plus a hefty amount of high end ram, graphic cards aren't as high a priority for me i guess (until they start getting their own dedicated GPUs)

[GoDGiRL]

not for gaming no, for heavy graphic shite it is. U can select the shite urself hinch, just open the site i gave u and add all the shite of that u can find. things i changed: nec 51 wasnt in that store so the 50 version (shudnt matter) black, and XFI Fatality Sound Card from Creative labs, and Kingston valueram 2x1gb


Ill list the shit total and find missing pieces in webshops in for u later on.
Id say buy the Lanparty DFI mobo for like 50 quid more.

[Quinn]

For games?
I'd go for Athlon64 (939 socket) on NForce4Ultra based mobo. Who needs SLI, really.
DFI Lanparty series is clearly best of the best, but if you don't dig much into overclocking, things like Asus will do. Make sure it has SATA2 (300MB/s), not SATA1 (150MB/s) chip.
All Athlons 64 use DDR400MHz ram. (Ram controller is built into athlon dice, so don't even ask about DDR2 mobo for Athlon.) If you don't OC, care only about them being CL2.5, not CL3.
Stay away from Maxtor HDDs, Shitgate bought Maxtor out and is killing the brand. Pitty IMHO. Of course drive itself has to be SATA2 too. This new NCQ technology looks promissing, but only few HDDs support it so far, and no built-in controllers at all.


A friend of mine just bought A46Venice 3000+ (boxed so only few £ more expensive, but with 3yrs warranty and surprisingly able fan), some Asus mobo, 250 or 300GB SATA2 Seagate, Gigabyte 6600 128MB graphics with fancy heatpipe fanless radiator, kewl Tagan 450W PSU, and 1GB of Patriot CL2.5 ram. No case.

He paid 2200 zł, that's almost exactly 400£. With polish 22% vat.

Of course for gaming you should get gf6800xt, twice that ram, as you said, and pump rest of cash into cpu. If you pay more then 1k£, you'll get screwed in the ass, sir ; p
About case, get some 20£ codegen frame after burning out thing they put there instead of psu.

If you want to have it uber quiet, i'd recommend Scythe Ninja fanless cpu radiator (~30£)(although fanless, it comes bundled with optional 12cm fan if your case airflow is not enuf. But watch out, you need really wide case to close it with Ninja in. But again, no need to close it without any fans inside) and some real Zalman gfx fanless heatpipe stuff (~30£ too I think).
1 more thing with Ninja, a PSU that has fan on bottom, instead 2 fans on front and back will cooperate with Ninja better.
If looking for rather good, rather quiet and rather cheap CPU heatsink, go for Arctic Freezer 64 (~12£)

[GoDGiRL]

outdated shit quinneh, we got Dualcore Athlon X2's nowadays, and x1900xt graphics boards.

[Kyle]

outdated shit quinneh, we got Dualcore Athlon X2's nowadays, and x1900xt graphics boards.

That depends if you want the fastest machine for your money, or the best value for money.

In all honesty dual core isn't that 'rad' for gaming, unless you're really into doing photo editing or other such cpu hogging things while raiding MC or somesuch, until games are specifically written for two cores (which, if I recall correctly, none currently are).

[GoDGiRL]

with his budget itd be better to invest more in new stuff that is top of the line, it'll last longer.

[Quinn]

Dual core is valid only for multithreaded progs, like 3d rendering or DIVX encoding. Maybe finding PI too or SETI at home. For games it's just 1/2 of processor wasted.

Top gfx card, what a waste of money, better wait until it's 3 times cheaper and more important, there will be at least one game which will utilise it's power...