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Just a little thread to say Hi to anyone that still reads/visits this forum area. Bit of a shame things went the way they did. Tbh. I do miss playing with you guys although after a while you do come to realise that games like WoW take out a large chunk of your time/life to play properly. I mean, 3 years - playing approx 3 hrs a day on average (and more on weekends!)
So, anything interesting going on in people's lives? I hear Vir and Grind are back playing WoW mwuahahaha!
Anybody around playing on Xbox live regularly? (cough, add me! 'CtpUK' as always...)
Any1 on Facebook that I haven't added? Craig Partridge if you want to search for me, although you may not get the right one :blush:
Anyone visiting London/England in the near future? (cough, drink-up!)
Hinch, you holding a meetup this year? Preferably later on in the year so I can enjoy my holibobs then come along. A weekend would be good so I don't have to take time off of work (can't afford to miss any with this contract starting up on site in August...)
Any online games coming out that don't require you to farm endlessly for hours on end? WAR looked like a good jump from WoW (seeing as AoC is pretty shite) but now looks doomed...
Any1 ever using Teamspeak randomly, even when not playing online? Would be good to have a chat once in a while if i'm by my computer at home. Will probably login randomly when Spore is released, as i'll be glued to my desk to play that.
That's about it from me for the moment. Work is a bit of a drag today as most people are off on strike due to the pay-deal that was turned down by the Unions. Gives me time to just sit and play Crisis Core on my PsP when nobody is looking hehe.
Speak to you soon, awaiting 100000 replies
Kjeldoran
16-07-2008, 09:54
Hey Ctp,
Seems my wow account is cancelled and I've lost all password and username and didn't receive a reply from Blizzard ... so I'm not (nor gonna) play WoW atm.
I'm occasionally playing AoC though. I just wanna cap a char there and atleast withness what mass PVP and endgame PVE looks like.
I'm also looking forward to WAR.
Avie is also trying to convince me to play TF2 but I'm not sure if I will, perhaps I'll give it a shot.
Other then that, I got little time to play online games atm due to busy months ahead at work and I got my new appartment in a month (which requires alot of work for atleast 2 months).
I'm also actively starting to pick up several sports I used to do but quit due to lack of time ...
Would be nice for us to one day all play together again in a game that's worth it. Pple like you, Caras, Viruk, Grind, Hinch, Avie, Twist, Grinthel, Hald, Uriel & Nite, Carch, Gro, Pulsi (god knows why), ... basicly the old FA WoW crew.
I miss these good old times tbh.
Nice hearing from you, Craig.
rgds Kj
Anybody around playing on Xbox live regularly? (cough, add me! 'CtpUK' as always...)
Play daily pretty much mostly on GH3
Any1 on Facebook that I haven't added? Craig Partridge if you want to search for me, although you may not get the right one :blush:
Anyone visiting London/England in the near future? (cough, drink-up!)
Just got back from london about midnight last night been there a few days.
Hinch, you holding a meetup this year? Preferably later on in the year so I can enjoy my holibobs then come along. A weekend would be good so I don't have to take time off of work (can't afford to miss any with this contract starting up on site in August...)
I had plans for a BBQ again but the way its looking at current i'm not around enough to actually hold one
Any online games coming out that don't require you to farm endlessly for hours on end? WAR looked like a good jump from WoW (seeing as AoC is pretty shite) but now looks doomed...
www.play-earthrise.com
Any1 ever using Teamspeak randomly, even when not playing online? Would be good to have a chat once in a while if i'm by my computer at home. Will probably login randomly when Spore is released, as i'll be glued to my desk to play that.
I never use TS unless I absolubtly have to and most mmo's just don't warrant it but i'll jump on if there's a few of us playing an fps of some description
That's about it from me for the moment. Work is a bit of a drag today as most people are off on strike due to the pay-deal that was turned down by the Unions. Gives me time to just sit and play Crisis Core on my PsP when nobody is looking hehe.
wow, way to lessen the workload Hinch, copy and paste ftl. Next time i'll type your answers for you aswell! ;)
Earthrise does look tempting, although I feel it will go the same way as AoC/Planetside (hyped up beyond all recognition, ego-upon-ego etc)
Diablo 3 looks okay...
Trouble is, I actually LIKED the way WoW panned out before talk of TBC. It was a lot more laid back, then the whole PvP system got changed - loads of armour sets released etc. If there was a game that allowed you to actually have a laugh then i'd be all for it.
Logged onto Xbox Live a few nights ago to find most people don't login all that much. Some for 60+ days... ppphhh... I'm not one to join random games as i'd rather play with people I know. (cough, get rock band)
Maybe we can meetup later in the year, no need for a bbq, just see who's around. I couldn't make the meetup in Manc-land unfortunately so would be good to meet Hald/Grint/Nite/Twist and see Uriel/Vir again.
downside for me is i'm pretty much out of the country from august until next year and aug is only 2 weeks away now
Yeah. I'm on holiday from 7-22 August, Cricket Tour in September, Christmas with the family (and prob going to Cornwall for a week again), add to that Barbados in February 2009! Busy busy busy!
Tell you what, i've been in a Monkey Island mood. Found Monkey Island 4 in the loft and installed it, although couldn't get on with it tbh.
Any ideas if I can download no1 & 2 from online and make it work on my PC, had issues before where games like that won't work on up-to-date systems.
you can get monkey island 1 and 2 in an emulator of some kind i saw it a while back.
think someone's ported them to flash too some where.
Meh, i'll see about downloading a torrent/emulator sometime. Might even see if I can get it for my psp :P
EDIT - Found a torrent site. Need to now work out how to download the emulator and files to get them to work! (I know what i'll be doing this evening)
Hi Ctp
Good to see you still around ive added you on facebook. I seem to only play TF2 atm nothing else really seems worth any time would be good for the old wow lot to find something again and have a laugh been tempted to log on wow again.
Gonna have to get my xbox gold just ont expect me on guitar hero useless at it lol and about teamspeak forgot all about it assumed aoc lot was on it .
Yeah, the Wotlk leaked trees looked okay, few tweaks/buffs here and there which got me thinking of dusting off my account for a while. Problem is, it will still be a "elite + the rest" game, where the more purple gear you have, the more you can do.
I'm tempted to buy the Orange Box though, it's about £22/£23 on the Xbox atm. Only reason I have against it is I have about 15 xbox games that I hardly touch, so should really play them more tbh.
Moo shizzle ppl,
Indeed there is a game lacking in which we can all jump on and start caressing our own egos while calling each other n00bs. Like Ctp said I'm unable and unwilling to dish out the amount of time for WoW or similar games, but would be up for something a bit more casual and less grind/farm oriented.
I think I'm one of those people who hasn't logged onto Xbox Live in over 60 days.. hehe. Still waiting for another game worth playing online as I've thoroughly milked Halo 3 and only play GTA offline. Left 4 Dead sounds interesting, anyone here getting that - if so, on the Xbox or PC?
Diablo 3 is still a long ways away from being released, but that would make a good casual after work pick up game among a couple of people which would be fun.. not to mention no grinding/farming!
I'll probably hope on TS while I'm kadoodling in spore when I get back from my holibobs in Argentina. It's 'winter' here, yet we've had a couple of days around 22-25*. You would think it gets cold when the sun goes down too, but no.. could actually walk around in nothing but your boxers and you'd fair alright.. hmm not a bad idea actually =).
Shamone motherfuckers!
I'm still around (you can't get rid of me), and I agree we need to find something to get all the FA lot back together, even if its all playing an FPS or something for a few hours just so we can have a laugh. EVERYONE HAS TO GET TF2 ON THEIR PC!!!
I'm tempted to play WoW in the expansion, and I'd be inclined towards an FA reunion where we didn't let anyone in unless they were the ex-FA that stuck around, even if it means 10 man content only. I really want to do Naxx again, and I'm sure we could have a giggle in there. Bring on Saturday morning Lucifron wipes. My general view of WoW rewarded the biggest dickheads and unsocial people has been proven by Ezzrah being accept into DarkStorm, so I'd like to keep as many "not Avoch compatible" players out of my way if I play WoW again :p
Diablo 3 looks good, I'm going to be playing Spore too, as well as Starcraft 2, Red Alert 3 and STALKER: Clear Sky to name a few. I'll also be dipping into most the upcoming MMOs, specifically the MMOFPS games, but for now I'm just whoring TF2, CSS, UT3, that FPS Hinch linked here and the odd Age of Empires 3 game.
I'm game for hopping on TS, although you can basically always catch me on MSN/Steam outside of that. As for actual meet ups, I believe Nite is organising something for her birthday, or was.
Booya!
grindcore
16-07-2008, 15:47
I'm tempted to play WoW in the expansion, and I'd be inclined towards an FA reunion where we didn't let anyone in unless they were the ex-FA that stuck around, even if it means 10 man content only. I really want to do Naxx again, and I'm sure we could have a giggle in there. Bring on Saturday morning Lucifron wipes. My general view of WoW rewarded the biggest dickheads and unsocial people has been proven by Ezzrah being accept into DarkStorm, so I'd like to keep as many "not Avoch compatible" players out of my way if I play WoW again :p
Yes! I paid my WoW again as it's the only multiplayer game atm that I remotely enjoy, playing a bit on my Rogue and leveling a Hunter just for fun (lol, it is).
And I'll be buying WotLK as well, and I sure hope some of the old crew comes back to play it, we could break some heads with the 10 man raid system coming, play pro and casual, the way we're used to.
If enough of you old folks agree with the idea, we could see who wants to play what class in a raid (not sure I want to keep playing Rogue) so we can get a balanced crew ready for the 10 man instances and take it from there.
I believe in FA! >.<
EDIT: Forgot about Diablo 3, yes, definitely playing it. But it'll take a year at least for that to come. So let's hang on :>
i wont ever be going back to wow there's no way in hell i'm lvling up a car from 0 to cap again.
grindcore
16-07-2008, 16:06
i wont ever be going back to wow there's no way in hell i'm lvling up a car from 0 to cap again.
Buy a green geared char from some random guy on Ebay or some other auction site. The worse the gear, the cheaper the price. Some of those chars go for cheaper than the game retail price because char buyers want EPIX only.
And you know how easy it is to gear up a char now with all the welfare loot :>
Even more, if you don't want to play before WotLK you can just buy it, save it and start leveling when the expansion hits. All quests are easily doable in green gear anyway and you'll replace the items all over again at lvl 80.
grindcore
16-07-2008, 16:48
I just had to make another post about how I really want to play with the old FA core in WotLK :(
Yes! I paid my WoW again as it's the only multiplayer game atm that I remotely enjoy, playing a bit on my Rogue and leveling a Hunter just for fun (lol, it is).
And I'll be buying WotLK as well, and I sure hope some of the old crew comes back to play it, we could break some heads with the 10 man raid system coming, play pro and casual, the way we're used to.
If enough of you old folks agree with the idea, we could see who wants to play what class in a raid (not sure I want to keep playing Rogue) so we can get a balanced crew ready for the 10 man instances and take it from there.
I believe in FA! >.<
EDIT: Forgot about Diablo 3, yes, definitely playing it. But it'll take a year at least for that to come. So let's hang on :>
That'd be the idea, I'm tending towards a DK as a tank, or possibly my Shaman or Warlock.
About WoTLK, if casually 10 manning dungeons with the old FA crew and having a laugh was all there was to it I'd definitely be up for it.
Fact is there will be the 70 -> 80 grindfest and probably then the farming of x rep for instance y and the farming for some primal/mat (confined to some pathetically small region or class of mob, in turn swamped by farmers or big guilds) for practically everything else.. of which I'm not up for =/
Pre-TBC raiding was enjoyable with farming/grinding to a minimum, with TBC they added several 'new and improved' features.. which just boiled down to more grinding/farming, I predict the same trend from TBC -> WoTLK.
grindcore
16-07-2008, 20:25
I think they sort of learned a lot from the start of TBC, over-tuned raids, reputation grinds etc etc how they should "tune" WotLK time-investment and grind wise.
For most of the current expansion, they've done nothing but nerfing and making things easier (lots of boss nerfs, heroic keys gone honored rep, daily quests with lots of gold, badge loot, old arena loot more accessible to name a few)... So I'd say they're not going to over-tune WotLK, I'm quite sure of it. They learned it's bad to start an expansion with overtuned bosses that casuals can't beat, they don't really have to prove their tuning and challenge abilities to anyone anymore, they can focus on making the endgame fun for everyone :>
There's the initial 70-80 grindfest, idd... I actually enjoyed leveling 60-70 very much the first time, only got bored somewhere through Netherstorm already wishing I was 70 (mainly for the flying mount lolz), but meh. They said it won't be more time consuming than TBC leveling was, it'll be more interactive, more "plot" quests involving Arthas etc. I sort of want to believe them. Plus, I think some of the areas really look awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4JhUrGP0d8 shows how they've taken the good, old feel of Azeroth, added a completely new touch and it looks and feels awesome.
I actually ran into a pug with Leo, kif...and even grinthel was there (or at least someone playing him was). Not much time for me, so i catch some raiding in the weekend, during weekdays busy working and all that.
facebook - Matthijs Winnink
Looking forward to starcraft 2, wotlk, diablo 3...i just love blizzard. Meanwhilst busying myself with my wii as well, loving smashing pokemon tbh.
IF, and I mean IF Wotlk allowed casuals more content (ie 10 man dungeons and not just grinding KZ plus a few boring heroic instances) then I MAY consider it... but only playing like once/twice a week. The thing about TBC that was good was clearing the content first time. After that, it was just a big repetition.
One thing they need to learn from is the jump in gear. "vanilla" wow was ideal in that you had to really work your arse off (or be incredibly lucky) to obtain Epic quality gear. making those items obsolete at level 61/62 and then having every person and their granny have full epic gear practically as they hit 70 kind of spoiled things. Make Epic gear EPIC, and the difference between Green > Blue > Epic shouldn't be a gaping chasm, but a small change (ie +3 stats) so that skill has to play a part.
As for Hinch, you are welcome to play my account if I ever reactivate it. Got my Shaman, Druid and Mage (didn't cap him)
grindcore
17-07-2008, 11:05
Good point about gear quality. Epics should be epics, TBC was sort of weird in that sense - it was only natural that you'd have epics a few hours after you hit 70. Craftable epics, epics from 5-man instances, badge epics... meh. :(
Haldurion
17-07-2008, 12:38
My god look what I miss when I don't pop on the forums for 2 days ... a full blown discussion by people that are'nt complete idiots (see shoutbox for that -.-).
Well, I wouldn't go as far as to say that Hald...
Haldurion
17-07-2008, 12:42
the full blown discussion part or levels of intellect?
IF, and I mean IF Wotlk allowed casuals more content (ie 10 man dungeons and not just grinding KZ plus a few boring heroic instances) then I MAY consider it... but only playing like once/twice a week. The thing about TBC that was good was clearing the content first time. After that, it was just a big repetition.
One thing they need to learn from is the jump in gear. "vanilla" wow was ideal in that you had to really work your arse off (or be incredibly lucky) to obtain Epic quality gear. making those items obsolete at level 61/62 and then having every person and their granny have full epic gear practically as they hit 70 kind of spoiled things. Make Epic gear EPIC, and the difference between Green > Blue > Epic shouldn't be a gaping chasm, but a small change (ie +3 stats) so that skill has to play a part.
As for Hinch, you are welcome to play my account if I ever reactivate it. Got my Shaman, Druid and Mage (didn't cap him)
That's the bit I don't like about WoW, how they've moved away from the traditional MMO model of "time = character development". Point proven by them reducing dungeon sizes, means you get your shinies faster. Nowadays when you look at potential recruits you have to see through all the free epics they've got to see how good they were. Pre-TBC all you needed was to trial them in a raid and you could see how cock they were. It also really annoys me that if I play for 4 hours a night raiding, that some mug can spend the same time wiping in Kara to get badge loot which is just as good.
Which is why if we formed a guild in WotLK it'd be casual (in how often we raided, I'd expect people to give it their all in a raid though) and wouldn't be open to recruits unless they'd been in FA before and stuck around. Two raid slots a week where we had fun, and cleared content that was stress free would float my boat.
They are slowly increasing the buffer kit has on ability by letting every monkey and his sister get decent quality kit just so they keep subscribing. No other MMO hands character progression out on a plate as much as WoW does, which is why I still maintain its a singleplayer game with networking.
Kjeldoran
17-07-2008, 14:51
Maybe we can meetup later in the year, no need for a bbq, just see who's around. I couldn't make the meetup in Manc-land unfortunately so would be good to meet Hald/Grint/Nite/Twist and see Uriel/Vir again.
Yeah, cuz god forbids you'll ever have to meet me !!!!
The thing about TBC that was good was clearing the content first time. After that, it was just a big repetition.
Good point, I'm still waiting to see when the idea of 'randomization' or 'alternate dungeon configurations' slips into the current and forthcoming mmorpg models. Diablo 2 implemented it in one of the latest patches, creating a unique dungeon structure and a unique assortment and placement of enemies. The fps Left 4 Dead is boasting an A.I. that places the enemies/bosses in a slightly random unique way each time as well I think.. although both games vary greatly in scale from an mmorpg such as WoW it's about time they added some of this.
No matter the dungeon/instance, once you've been through it more than half a dozen times you begin to feel less like an adventurer and more like an employee. Add some randomized dungeon room/tunnel/whatever transitions and randomization of enemy types and placement and you could very well extend the lifespan of the dungeons two or three fold.
As for the epic loot, I agree - vanilla WoW held purples at the end of a path made up of bodies layed out on a river of blood and really felt like an achievement once you got your hands on one. TBC was more like a path of marshmellows on a river of milkyway chocolate and turned into something commonplace. Not sure how they'll go about this in WoTLK but doubt they'll go back to the way things were for fear of losing the 12-16yr old lot whose attention span wanes if they don't get 3 epics in one raid.
Kjeldoran
17-07-2008, 15:08
Shamone motherfuckers!
I'm still around (you can't get rid of me), and I agree we need to find something to get all the FA lot back together, even if its all playing an FPS or something for a few hours just so we can have a laugh. EVERYONE HAS TO GET TF2 ON THEIR PC!!!
I'm tempted to play WoW in the expansion, and I'd be inclined towards an FA reunion where we didn't let anyone in unless they were the ex-FA that stuck around, even if it means 10 man content only. I really want to do Naxx again, and I'm sure we could have a giggle in there. Bring on Saturday morning Lucifron wipes. My general view of WoW rewarded the biggest dickheads and unsocial people has been proven by Ezzrah being accept into DarkStorm, so I'd like to keep as many "not Avoch compatible" players out of my way if I play WoW again :p
Diablo 3 looks good, I'm going to be playing Spore too, as well as Starcraft 2, Red Alert 3 and STALKER: Clear Sky to name a few. I'll also be dipping into most the upcoming MMOs, specifically the MMOFPS games, but for now I'm just whoring TF2, CSS, UT3, that FPS Hinch linked here and the odd Age of Empires 3 game.
I'm game for hopping on TS, although you can basically always catch me on MSN/Steam outside of that. As for actual meet ups, I believe Nite is organising something for her birthday, or was.
Booya!
I'm not compatible with anyone so ... plz make an exception for me.
And Ctp, thx for blatantly ignoring my post (yes, the first one after your initial post) !!! I'll think twice before I put efforts into replying.
rgds Kj
I didn't "blatently ignore" anything, I read it - but I simply haven't quoted from it.
I'm going to add 1 months playtime to my account to see if I can get back to playing a little before I go on my holibobs. Hinch, you're welcome to use the account to level a char/play another (and so are you KJ...) i've got a 38 Lock and 24 Hunter that need boosting RAWR!!!
Just make sure you aren't full of trojans and such!
By the by - HALD IF YOU ARE THERE:
Did you send those items to my Mage (Primals), if so, did they bounce back, and is it possible to get them again? :P Just logged in and seems iv been away over 90 days...
Still in WoW, jumping to different guilds until I finally find one which might fit (looking good in the current one though)...
I see Tiger around sometimes still, Jebb's in my current guild, but not many other people from FA.
Got a work colleague who's cleared Sunwell with his guild already and who usually is pretty damn well informed about WoW changes. According to what he's read, in WotlK raids can be completed in 10man or 25man groups with only a very minor change in loot quality, supporting casual playing more. Like that change if it comes true... then again, I believe the addon wont be live before 2009.
Greetings,
Cray
(current chars:
Mythoughts, main, mage
Federvieh, alt, feral druid atm)
That's not exactly well informed, that's been posted practically everywhere since it was announced :p
"Usually well informed" != "well informed because of this:"
grindcore
17-07-2008, 22:49
When it's about WoW, usually well informed= reads worldofraids.com once a week.
Haldurion
18-07-2008, 05:25
Throw me the list of what you need Ctp and I'll get them your way
Morning Hald!
Primals matey, mainly the ones I need to craft Spellstrike and Spellfire (the fire mage ones!), think its Fire and one other mainly.
Also, any mage like items - any tailoring patterns that are lying around, or wtfawesome mage stuff ;)
What do you have still? If you have some preist items i'll take them off your hands too.
Also, if people could add me still on Facebook or/ provide an Msn addy for me that would be great. Would be good to keep in touch from time to time.
Hey Ctp...how about you telling us which is the right one on facebook ;-)
Just look for the Craig Partridge that has a rather gay looking pose...
Failing that, Mark Dalton/Jacob Holmgren/Leonti F are on my friends list.
Morning ladies, well ain this a growing thread. Btw Mark Dalton is me if you indeed want to add me on facebook.
Like Ctp said im back playing wow, i only left to play AoC tbh not because i didn't want to play anymore. So atm im trying to prove myself in shite gruul/kara raids to squeeze into a proper raid with the guild im in.
Anyone that is playing again drop me a line.
PS: I will deffo be getting the expansion, and i will deffo be getting D3.
Kjeldoran
18-07-2008, 13:14
Morning Hald!
Primals matey, mainly the ones I need to craft Spellstrike and Spellfire (the fire mage ones!), think its Fire and one other mainly.
Also, any mage like items - any tailoring patterns that are lying around, or wtfawesome mage stuff ;)
What do you have still? If you have some preist items i'll take them off your hands too.
I got a bag full of WTF epics which I for some reason hardly use :)
Ohhh, and the 200 unused badges aswell :D
Kjeldoran
18-07-2008, 13:16
Morning ladies, well ain this a growing thread. Btw Mark Dalton is me if you indeed want to add me on facebook.
Like Ctp said im back playing wow, i only left to play AoC tbh not because i didn't want to play anymore. So atm im trying to prove myself in shite gruul/kara raids to squeeze into a proper raid with the guild im in.
Anyone that is playing again drop me a line.
PS: I will deffo be getting the expansion, and i will deffo be getting D3.
Kara and Gruul are beneath me. I promised myself I'd never ever do Gruul again and (incase I'd start playing again) I'll stick to that :)
Becides, my mage is good enough to get in an MH-BT raiding guild. So I'm sure your warrior is aswell.
rgds Kj
There are too many of you on there...goes for Viruk even more than CTP...
btw, they all have a gayish pose if they got a picture even.
FInding me is easier...there is just one of mee drinking a very nice big glass of beer in my pic. Matthijs Winnink.
Bamboocha
20-07-2008, 12:45
That's the bit I don't like about WoW, how they've moved away from the traditional MMO model of "time = character development". Point proven by them reducing dungeon sizes, means you get your shinies faster. Nowadays when you look at potential recruits you have to see through all the free epics they've got to see how good they were. Pre-TBC all you needed was to trial them in a raid and you could see how cock they were. It also really annoys me that if I play for 4 hours a night raiding, that some mug can spend the same time wiping in Kara to get badge loot which is just as good.
Which is why if we formed a guild in WotLK it'd be casual (in how often we raided, I'd expect people to give it their all in a raid though) and wouldn't be open to recruits unless they'd been in FA before and stuck around. Two raid slots a week where we had fun, and cleared content that was stress free would float my boat.
They are slowly increasing the buffer kit has on ability by letting every monkey and his sister get decent quality kit just so they keep subscribing. No other MMO hands character progression out on a plate as much as WoW does, which is why I still maintain its a singleplayer game with networking.
tbh you arent being totaly fair and every post u make comes down to the same opinion of WoW,
everything is damn easy to get.
wich isnt quite true:
time = character developmentIt also really annoys me that if I play for 4 hours a night raiding, that some mug can spend the same time wiping in Kara to get badge loot which is just as good.yes u raid 4 hours down 3 bosses get badges AND you get a chance to get loot.
now kara in 4 hours = 21 badges wich is no gear, since nowaday u need 60 to over 100 badges to get a decent item wich takes TIME. 3 weeks at least to get just a item by only doing karazhan (not counting the fails @ HC's wich are even harder then kara).
Ive witnessed that with my paladin (wich still got blue's and kara/badge epics) its damn hard to get proper gear when i reached 70 (despite the fact that I am prot), being in a ALREADY established raiding guild helps alot, but still it takes ALOT of TIME to get the gear that u want.
also the smaller raids is actually better, there will be more guilds and they will survive longer because getting 25 people is less harder then 40 people (who are actually doing something).
Pre-TBC all you needed was to trial them in a raid and you could see how cock they were.bullshit tbh, I got denied many times of gear being too low for the guild's "standards" and because I got denied I didnt got experience in the dungeons..... It was way harder to get into a guild, so I got stuck @ raiding only ZG and doing 5 mans. I got bored of that and went playing an alt wich was my rogue.
u can whine about TBC being too casual, but with 10.7 million players not everybody has the time to raid every day, thus having crap gear, thus quitting the game....
tbh you arent being totaly fair and every post u make comes down to the same opinion of WoW,
everything is damn easy to get.
That's because its my opinion, of course it won't change every time I state it. My main point isn't about things being easy though, if you manage to comprehend it all, it's about there not being a seperation between the hardcore and the casual. That's what MMOs should be about.
yes u raid 4 hours down 3 bosses get badges AND you get a chance to get loot.
now kara in 4 hours = 21 badges wich is no gear, since nowaday u need 60 to over 100 badges to get a decent item wich takes TIME. 3 weeks at least to get just a item by only doing karazhan (not counting the fails @ HC's wich are even harder then kara).
Oh dear, 3 weeks, thats under half the time it took pre-TBC to get an item upgrade that you wanted. That short a time is too easy, proven by the fact you can PuG it. No raid instance should be PuGable, unless done by a coalition of competent guilds that are well past it.
Ive witnessed that with my paladin (wich still got blue's and kara/badge epics) its damn hard to get proper gear when i reached 70 (despite the fact that I am prot), being in a ALREADY established raiding guild helps alot, but still it takes ALOT of TIME to get the gear that u want.
That's the first tier of kit though, which is group content you can do as many times in a day as you want (with the exception of heroics, but most of that stuff is crap anyway). It's raid content I'm talking about, not stuff I can do when I am drunk off my face or not even looking at the screen.
bullshit tbh, I got denied many times of gear being too low for the guild's "standards" and because I got denied I didnt got experience in the dungeons..... It was way harder to get into a guild, so I got stuck @ raiding only ZG and doing 5 mans. I got bored of that and went playing an alt wich was my rogue.
Well, if you didn't meet the bar, that's not my fault. I'd only cleared up to Hakkar in ZG, and Domo in MC, yet I got into a guild that was half way through AQ40 and I stayed there till I quit WoW. I was in 5 out of the 6 raids each week, in full Earthfury, a BWL necklace and the AQ40 rep ring, and I wore that through AQ40 (we cleared it) and through all 9 kills of the bosses we visted in Naxx. If you didn't have what it took to get into a guild, good, because that is how it is meant to be. Waving a few epics under someone's nose to prove you can either whore easy instances or got lucky with a random Kara group should not deem you worthy for proper content.
u can whine about TBC being too casual, but with 10.7 million players not everybody has the time to raid every day, thus having crap gear, thus quitting the game....
I don't care if there are 10M players (you realise Blizzard mean total accounts, including banned and cancelled right?), there are only 3-5K on my server, and I've played MMOs with a far, far lower population and not suffered. I'm not against catering for casual players, I am against not seperating the casual from the hardcore. If I spend 5 nights a week playing WoW, I don't expect some monkey who plays every weekend to be able to have as good kit when they can't even find their arse from their elbow.
lo peeps!
been ages since i ve seen or spoke to most of u mainly cause u r all either gave up or playing god knows where adn god knows what! I am in Veterans atm with Kif and bopparn and few other from FA from pre tbc era... things r going fine there! One of my alts is in aztecs where is mister VMAN now! So i see him quite a lot now too hehe Tiger and Cray my greetings to u! Pulse u lazy butt! Stop ignoring me!!! Hope one day we all play together again...:D
Killfromafar
21-07-2008, 05:43
Hey look how did my elbow get there?
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