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Kjeldoran
30-07-2008, 13:25
Since I got rejected by Punished (full on mages) and since it takes 25 years to get a reply from Veterans ...
Any suggestions what guild(s) I should apply at, that are still looking for a mage? I know Aztecs aren't, ND neither and SE quit active raiding. So if you could list some guilds where I might find what I need (MH and BT progression), I'd be very happy :)
Rgds Kj
Apathia?
Eternal Pain? - think they are moving through MH/BT
Kjeldoran
30-07-2008, 13:54
All nice but both are closed on mages ...
Doesn't really matter anyway, when you see the "nerfs" mages get in WOTLK you'll think twice on playing on your main :P
I'm mainly talking about the increased set mana cost for spells, like 9% of ur mana for Polymorph alone LOL!
Kjeldoran
30-07-2008, 14:22
Regardless, I'm looking for a guild atm ... :)
seriously why bother, only point to WoW anymore would be raiding with friends - joining a new guild and raiding with a group of unknowns all competing for lootz.. bleh
grindcore
30-07-2008, 15:08
seriously why bother, only point to WoW anymore would be raiding with friends - joining a new guild and raiding with a group of unknowns all competing for lootz.. bleh
Seeing 3 new raid instances is a valid point...But yeah, not valid enough on its own to make me consider it :P
Kjeldoran
30-07-2008, 15:09
seriously why bother, only point to WoW anymore would be raiding with friends - joining a new guild and raiding with a group of unknowns all competing for lootz.. bleh
Because raiding with friends is IMPOSSIBLE here. Simple ... I tried to motivate pple to rejoin at WOTLK and give it another try, but the turnout is really low so ...
KJ!!! I think we might have a spot open in Dark prophecy, made some tremendous progress last few weeks (guild has been around for about a month with several endgame experienced people to lead) Got MH 3/5, almost one-shotted the 4th boss for the first time, but first kill on 3rd was nice. TK 3/4, SCC 4/6, BT 2/9. Afternoon farming sunwell trash...I am saved to all 25-mans except sunwell this week. Think there is a good spot open for a mage, ill ask around tonight when i see them anyway.
Its a really friendly way of raiding, no 16-yearolds whining for loot. And in raids i will keep your HP up since i am a marvelous healer on my Priest.
Think there is a good spot open for a mage, ill ask around tonight when i see them anyway.
Note - a GOOD SPOT open for a Mage, not a spot open for a GOOD MAGE
So, you fit the bill KJ :P
Haldurion
30-07-2008, 16:53
Lawl
Note - a GOOD SPOT open for a Mage, not a spot open for a GOOD MAGE
So, you fit the bill KJ :P
made me lol ... :))
Mages do get some nice buffs though in Wotlk. Their synergy with Balance Druids and Elemental Shamans will be nice.
Druids:
+5% crit chance
When druid crits you get +20% spell haste (30 sec cd)
+3% hit
+6% Arcane Damage
Elemental Shamans:
Totem of Wrath +3% hit +3% crit
Elemental Oath: -2% mana cost on spells and +2% crit dmg when shammy crits, stacks 3 times.
Other Shamans:
Wrath of air : +20% spellhaste
Flame thingy totem : +spelldmg
Ok, now check the new talents for the arcane tree. http://www.mmo-champion.com/talent/?mage
Just awesome.
Arcane Blast will do 15% more dmg / stack rather than faster cating time, this is great because it works better with spell haste!
I know some guys (3-6 i guess) who are in Dark Prophecy, they're nice and pro. Well worth a try.
The only good thing about WOW now is the pvp raiding is wank. Log on kill a few people log off. As for raiding same old grind kill bigger mob to get the gear to kill another mob gets boring after 3 years.
O and kj you would`nt last long in aztecs due to the whinging
KJ!!! I think we might have a spot open in Dark prophecy, made some tremendous progress last few weeks (guild has been around for about a month with several endgame experienced people to lead) Got MH 3/5, almost one-shotted the 4th boss for the first time, but first kill on 3rd was nice. TK 3/4, SCC 4/6, BT 2/9. Afternoon farming sunwell trash...I am saved to all 25-mans except sunwell this week. Think there is a good spot open for a mage, ill ask around tonight when i see them anyway.
Its a really friendly way of raiding, no 16-yearolds whining for loot. And in raids i will keep your HP up since i am a marvelous healer on my Priest.
That's because DP is led by a load of ex-TW people, including VR. And VR isn't very popular around here :)
i'd have to agree with mr.nippa
vanilla WoW was all good and fun, TBC was a bit more of the same but still doable, now with WotLK it's just more of the same. sure there are 'new' instances, new content etc and they shuffled around/added/took away spells/abilities/talents but in the end the novelty will wear off after 2-3 months and you'll be left in that same routine.
the mmorpg scene needs a change, unfortunately we've been subjected to WoW as the only viable/popular game in the last ~3 years and so most of us have had the style/mechanics/system imprinted on our brains, thinking its the best and sometimes only approach to a 'good' mmorpg, using it as a base of comparison to new emerging games and falling back on it when we get dissapointed - (like a crackhead trying to quit but failing lolz)
I also get it's hard to leave something you know so well and feel so comfortable with, but I'm looking forward to some change - even though it will take a few jumps before games start to completely deviate from the 'WoW' model. AoC was a dissapointment, let's hope WAR doesn't dissapoint.
I`am looking forward to TW when if it comes
grindcore
30-07-2008, 20:24
i'd have to agree with mr.nippa
vanilla WoW was all good and fun, TBC was a bit more of the same but still doable, now with WotLK it's just more of the same. sure there are 'new' instances, new content etc and they shuffled around/added/took away spells/abilities/talents but in the end the novelty will wear off after 2-3 months and you'll be left in that same routine.
the mmorpg scene needs a change, unfortunately we've been subjected to WoW as the only viable/popular game in the last ~3 years and so most of us have had the style/mechanics/system imprinted on our brains, thinking its the best and sometimes only approach to a 'good' mmorpg, using it as a base of comparison to new emerging games and falling back on it when we get dissapointed - (like a crackhead trying to quit but failing lolz)
I also get it's hard to leave something you know so well and feel so comfortable with, but I'm looking forward to some change - even though it will take a few jumps before games start to completely deviate from the 'WoW' model. AoC was a dissapointment, let's hope WAR doesn't dissapoint.
That's true. On the other hand, what made raiding with FA so fun back in the day was that the actual core was a small group of people, we knew each other really well and took on some pretty crazy stuff to keep ourselves entertained.
It's a difficult question, whether you follow the "mainstream" of the game, completing all the quests, progressing in raids, getting better rating in Arena.. or you just play "your game". In WoW, it's very hard to play "your game" because there's little to do other than the mainstream stuff, which brings you back to the dilemma: are you going to sacrifice enough time of your life to perhaps make it worthwhile by having fun in the game?
To make it possible for that fun to be had once again, we'd need that core of people who are willing to play regulary. Alas, in the history of FA-Al'Akir, we've rarely had the chance of getting that good core playing together all the time, leading to recruiting random people who disturb the community spirit and ruin the fun.
I'd say for kicks, I wouldn't mind playing 2-3 evenings per week raiding with FA, even if it is just WoW, even if it is just the same content in a different flavour. If it's with some of the coolest people I've met online, it's worth it.
That's true. On the other hand, what made raiding with FA so fun back in the day was that the actual core was a small group of people, we knew each other really well and took on some pretty crazy stuff to keep ourselves entertained.
It's a difficult question, whether you follow the "mainstream" of the game, completing all the quests, progressing in raids, getting better rating in Arena.. or you just play "your game". In WoW, it's very hard to play "your game" because there's little to do other than the mainstream stuff, which brings you back to the dilemma: are you going to sacrifice enough time of your life to perhaps make it worthwhile by having fun in the game?
To make it possible for that fun to be had once again, we'd need that core of people who are willing to play regulary. Alas, in the history of FA-Al'Akir, we've rarely had the chance of getting that good core playing together all the time, leading to recruiting random people who disturb the community spirit and ruin the fun.
I'd say for kicks, I wouldn't mind playing 2-3 evenings per week raiding with FA, even if it is just WoW, even if it is just the same content in a different flavour. If it's with some of the coolest people I've met online, it's worth it.
Back in the day was that when people signed and then never showed up. That was half the trouble with FA and thats in my eyes why FA fell apart. Sorry to say
grindcore
30-07-2008, 20:52
Back in the day was that when people signed and then never showed up. That was half the trouble with FA and thats in my eyes why FA fell apart. Sorry to say
The people who signed and never showed up were, if I remember correctly, newcomers whom we had to recruit to keep raiding and whose playing skills were sub-par anyway, who never read the forums, didn't know a thing about tactics and generally only cared about the random epic drop they got on the one raid they managed to turn up to. :(
As to why we had to recruit them in the first place, now that's the reason why we fell apart imo. But I might be wrong ;)
The people who signed and never showed up were, if I remember correctly, newcomers whom we had to recruit to keep raiding and whose playing skills were sub-par anyway, who never read the forums, didn't know a thing about tactics and generally only cared about the random epic drop they got on the one raid they managed to turn up to. :(
As to why we had to recruit them in the first place, now that's the reason why we fell apart imo. But I might be wrong ;)
Well if i remember corectly some of the officer`s signed and never showed quite alot. So Imo that dos`nt set a good example
what made raiding with FA so fun back in the day was that the actual core was a small group of people, we knew each other really well and took on some pretty crazy stuff to keep ourselves entertained.
I'd say for kicks, I wouldn't mind playing 2-3 evenings per week raiding with FA, even if it is just WoW, even if it is just the same content in a different flavour. If it's with some of the coolest people I've met online, it's worth it.
If 'playing' (enjoying yourself) 2-3 evenings with friends was all there were to it I'd more than be up for it, but I know how WoW works by now and the way Blizzard attaches these 'requirements' to your 'having fun' experience. On top of the 2-3 nights you spend raiding you need time to obtain gold for repairs, consumables, items etc, you need Reputation for this or that, you need some number of item from some certain type of mob... etc etc.
You could very well play 2-3 evenings 'casually', however I think that's incredibly difficult and depends on the person. In order to have an up to date character and present/place your char at a fairly competitive/competent level you need to devote more time.
When it comes down to it WoW follows that linear model which requires you to invenst more and more absurb amounts of time to obtain progress.
I deffo hope the old FA WoW core can get together in some decent game in the future though, if WAR turns out to be any good I'll be trying to hook some ppl on ^_^ (on paper it's looking quite good, with several issues I found are annoying in WoW being solved with some interesting/innovative solutions).
For example if someone 10+ levels higher decides to gank you in pvp flagged zone they turn into a chicken.. lol (depends on server type choice).
Back in the day was that when people signed and then never showed up. That was half the trouble with FA and thats in my eyes why FA fell apart. Sorry to say
You left way, way before FA really fell apart. A lot changed a few weeks after you left, as some of us chose not to give up on what we were part of.
Well if i remember corectly some of the officer`s signed and never showed quite alot. So Imo that dos`nt set a good example
That rarely happened, if an officer kept doing that they wouldn't have been an officer for very long.
grindcore
30-07-2008, 23:00
I might be an idealist twat and you all will have the pleasure to misquote me and rub it in my face, but I believe WotLK will be a lot more relaxed for casual raiding.
What I mean is that it'll still have the option to farm for craftable gear, endlessly farm heroics for badges, farm reputations, etc etc. I just hope Blizzard will be smart enough this time around to let us start the 10-man progression path in the good gear we've got whilst enjoying the starter 5-mans and heroic versions without unnecessary grinding.
They've promised over and over that Naxx will be a very easy-going starter instance. I wouldn't, of course, expect it to be a pushover, because that would be dumb. What I expect is a decent amount of skill involved without mind-numbing grinds for this or that resistance item or potions or whatever.
As I said, you'll have the pleasure of misquoting me, but I still think they realised they fucked up with the start of TBC and made it too hardcore. They thought they had a lot of no-lifers who wanted more and more grinds and time wasters, but when everyone started hating the game and thousands of flame threads hit the official forums after people hit 70, it got the point through, though it took them a long time to get the idea, and they won't make the same mistakes again in WotLK.
A certain amount of non-fun factors will always remain in a game. Repair bills aren't bad when you have a gathering profession, farming 10 minutes for a stack of lolherb or roflore will net you at least an evening of fun raiding. Since Alchemy was seriously nerfed and probably will stay that way, consumables aren't a big problem anymore.
[quote=grindcore;198104] FA-Al'Akir [quote]
Funny ;-) translated from dutch FAAL = FAIL...FAIL'akir ftl.
Anyway KJ, there is one spot open for recruitment and currently one mage applying, in either case i messaged the classleader for some more insight into the mage situation. As you might remember mages are serious slackers ;-)
Kjeldoran
31-07-2008, 13:23
I applied to Apathia and got accepted right away, eventhough the mage class is closed there. Unlike Vets (who seem unable to use a forum) or Punished, they seem to believe I'm good enough to be added to the team.
They have MH and BT on farm and are venturing into Sunwell since this week. So for my progression this is excellent as I'll finally see some more endgame content.
I'm gonna give it a try and see how it panes out. If it doesn't, I'll check out Dark Prophecy.
Only person I know in Apathia will be Ramonek, one of the mages I recruited to FA.
To Tiger: Thx m8 for the effort, but I got accepted this morning. And yes, mages ARE slackers.
To Nippa: Who said I wanted to join Aztecs nway? And the reason FA fell apart eventually was pple giving up to fast and joining other guilds, which forced us to recruit others and therefor lowering the general quality in FA.
rgds Kj
Bnox is in Apathia isn't he? Not that that is a good thing, he's a dick when it comes down to it.
Kjeldoran
31-07-2008, 15:15
Bnox is in Apathia isn't he? Not that that is a good thing, he's a dick when it comes down to it.
I don't care about that. This is an endgame raiding guild that has given me the chance to raid again. For a mage, that's not an easy job atm.
grindcore
31-07-2008, 16:44
I don't care about that. This is an endgame raiding guild that has given me the chance to raid again. For any DPS class, that's not an easy job atm.
fixed.
We will catch up to you soon Kj ;-) the farming for Heart of Darkness is going nicely (ill soon complete my shadowres set) Vashj will be down this week, first attempts on Kael are incoming. You should log-in on FA once in a while...you are a god there...(or a pet actually)
Kjeldoran
01-08-2008, 13:12
We will catch up to you soon Kj ;-) the farming for Heart of Darkness is going nicely (ill soon complete my shadowres set) Vashj will be down this week, first attempts on Kael are incoming. You should log-in on FA once in a while...you are a god there...(or a pet actually)
I'll get my HoD's for free in Apathia, they got enough spare ones :D
I'm the one who set the topic in FA ... who else would refer to me as a god ??? ;D
And well, we'll keep in touch. What's your priest's name again? I'll add you as a friend ingame.
rgds Kj
Siberius is my priest in Dark Prophecy, Memotoself is my new shaman i am leveling.
Bamboocha
01-08-2008, 13:40
Well my rogue raid carreer went "well"......
After alot of Talking with the punished officers, I finally got in.
I've attended every raid, farmed my consumables, farmed my enchants, etc etc
only because of some minor mistakes they suddenly tell me that I take my spot for granted and kick me from the guild. not caring at all about my performance during the raid....
great, what now hmm...
anyone know some rogue spots in a BT/MH (progressing) guild?
Kjeldoran
01-08-2008, 13:46
Try Apathia :D
It's summer so alot of guilds are "slacking" atm and need extra members to maintain their raids.
And about Punished ... I got refused, eventhough being the "perfect" player they would need, because the mageclass was closed. 5 mages was already more then enough for them and max 3 of them signing each raid seems to be major oversigning ...
Makes sence ofcourse but ok :)
rgds Kj
Strangely we are making serious progress every week...
5 mages was already more then enough for them and max 3 of them signing each raid seems to be major oversigning ...
Makes sence ofcourse but ok :)
If it makes you feel better, believe that.
Not correct though - yesterday we were 4 mages attending i.e., usually we're never less than 3.
So another mage = one of the currently active ones is doomed to do nothing every now and then. I can understand their reasoning.
(I wanted to check out Apathia before I joined, too - but their members didnt seem to be very helpful, pointed me to a website without forum or possibility to apply. Decided against it then. Will ask you in a few weeks if you're happy with em tho.)
Kjeldoran
04-08-2008, 13:12
If it makes you feel better, believe that.
Not correct though - yesterday we were 4 mages attending i.e., usually we're never less than 3.
So another mage = one of the currently active ones is doomed to do nothing every now and then. I can understand their reasoning.
(I wanted to check out Apathia before I joined, too - but their members didnt seem to be very helpful, pointed me to a website without forum or possibility to apply. Decided against it then. Will ask you in a few weeks if you're happy with em tho.)
Well, apathia has 9 mages and rotates all the time. Dunno which officer you approached but the one I whispered helped me straight away and I got accepted about 6 hours after I made the app.
Haven't raided with them yet (but Sunwell trash) so I can't say how raiding is like. But e.g. yesterday they killed first 6 bosses in BT, all on first attempt. Then I logged so I don't know how it progressed.
They also use a far better DKP system (EP-GP or something like that). It's a mod you need to download and it gives the price of any item. And they update your points in the member's "officers note" ...
Their raiding calender is remarkably better then yours. They actually can confirm members so those know they'll be picked while others will be put on reserve etc ...
rgds Kj
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