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Its a 89 Silvia K, came with a CA18DET, which I still have. its got 159ks on it.
I got an SR20DET Black top for it but 17 psi was a little too ambitious for 38+c weather-bam.
thinking about getting another black top.
Now im back with the CA18DET
Running a Hybrid FMIC
5zgien proracer 3" turbo back exhaust
3'' HKS Headers/dump pipe
T28BB turbo
RDA slotted rotors & EBC "Green stuff" Pads x4
Work Meisters coil overs with some stiff Tein Springs
Cusco front and rear strutbars
APEXi SAFC II and turbo timer.
SARD 550cc injectors
Blitz DD Bov
GFB Pneumatic Boost control @ 12psi
Some HKS pod filter with a ghetto cold air intake
120 $ tires, cheap way to make the car fun.
JJR Double bladed drift wing (wank factor)
Chinese bucket seats & shady weld job.
HIDs
I got some Volk Racing rims on it now, 17'' much better for drag than the old school 14''s its got in the pict but not as fun.
Atm im only upgrading stuff that breaks rather than replacing it OEM (unless its stuff like coilpacks, nothing beats OEM for those)
SAFC II reports it knocking at 54 if I let it idle for a long time but I think its because the engine mounts look a little loose so im ignoring it until it matters, calms down a lot when I drive it. ECU doesnt throw up any codes about a knock sensor, or any other sensor.
Doesnt have much for a sound system, it has an alpine deck and some speakers I looted from a condmned car.
all the speakers are 6''s but the front ones used to be 6x8 I think, right now Ive got 6''s in there suspended with zipties.
Damn sweet ride! Drift y0
Thanks, I started it as a drift project, but every silvia on the road is a "drift" car so now im building it more as a v8 killer.
Did all the work minus the engine swaps myself.
Junkyards are fucking awsome, I got all my parts from there
(except the rotors and pads obv). im going for the best cash:performance ratio I can :P
I might just keep the CA, I replaced the organic head gasket with an aftermarket nismo alloy bit (also non junkyard, unfortunantly) before it inevitably blew up on me. The CA seems pretty bullet proof and its torquey so I might just keep it.
Save me another couple o grand.
The blacktops are harder to find than the redtops, at the end of the day it doesnt really matter that much, I see just as many redtop sr20 silvias as blacktops.
But ive seen 1 other CA silvia and it was pushing 400HP...
Don't underestimate the CA series ability to suddenly blow up in your face, sneaky buggers those engines! Heh what scrapyard did you get Volk rims at? :D
Generally think the sr20 is a bit better in terms of reliability, and it can cope with high boost better imo.
But im a Honda driver.. :D
not sure if you noticed, but it looks like the local chavs sprayed gray on it :P
ah nah I had to bite the bullet and get the Volks new.
Sad thing about the car world, the profit per dollar margin is a lot better on rice burning addons than on serious performance work.
a 2000 dollar paintjob can add 4000 dollars of value to a car, 2000 dollars worth of serious JDM parts wont. Thats the stuff I have to take into consideration when im working on this.
The best thing about the SR series engines is the sheer availability of aftermarket parts for them, forged internals are easy and cheap to get and can pretty much make that engine bullet proof, and there are a million bolt ons for it.
CAs you are basically looking at one off custom work all the way. the money is better spent on the SR, you'll get more power per dollar.
However on paper the CA is the better engine, and on paper its iron block can cope with harder boosts if you swap the crappy headgasket out for a stronger aftermarket bit.
Most of the blown CAs Ive seen have been head gaskets. The blown SRs on the other hand have been various reasons. Probably because the CA will blow up at the headgasket before it blows up anywhere else.
At the moment Im not going to be spending anymore money on the CA in areas that cant be transfered to an SR until ive made up my mind or I happen to get my hands on a not seriously over priced blacktop...or cheap redtop.
Running 12psi, with the injectors and the big FMIC and breather is pretty conservative. I run the thing on 100 octane fuel anyways and the SAFC keeps my fuel maps from having any nasty holes in them.
Some guy made one with an RB25DETT. Saw a nissan Laurel with a LS1 or 3 in it, (Holden/GM V8)
not sure if you noticed, but it looks like the local chavs sprayed gray on it :P
Thats primer from a small accident :P
Some guy in a truck swiped the side of my car and I had left it parked on the front lawn so it got shoved into one of the columns near my front door.
Until I sell it, I dont care what the fucking thing looks like :P
Im not planning it on painting it red and everyone knows thats the only color that makes you go faster.
Sticking with ghetto panda spec for the moment.
They dont have chavs around where I live. Lets just say I live in a neighborhood which is comprised of concentraded groups of ethnically originating people.
ghetto panda spec lol
paint it pink
http://94.100.114.42/353300001-353350000/353325801-353325900/353325883_6_Jsuw.jpeg
Mate's SX, hes a pro drifter... no joke! Thats a full URAS bodykit, with shitloads of holes in it...
Some guy is running around in an NA supra that's pink. Dont wanna have anything to do with that, he has a 5'' cannon on a N/A, bet its an automatic too.
The "Drift damage" look is the next trend I think, zip tie stitching, tons of holes, badly fitted body kits. Its gonna start happening more and more.
I got a F/glass Vertex kit, gonna use the front to give the fmic a little more room to play in but the sideskirts look gay, its an offset kit but my wheels have neutral offset so it will look wierd.
I got it with the car so who cares.
Whats with your buds exhaust? is that wank factor or did I miss something?
is that a 200/240SX? he running the KA or an SR/RB?
Thats a fucking awsome wing on that red car in the back though, looks like it adds atleast 8 horses.
Some guy is running around in an NA supra that's pink. Dont wanna have anything to do with that, he has a 5'' cannon on a N/A, bet its an automatic too.
The "Drift damage" look is the next trend I think, zip tie stitching, tons of holes, badly fitted body kits. Its gonna start happening more and more.
I got a F/glass Vertex kit, gonna use the front to give the fmic a little more room to play in but the sideskirts look gay, its an offset kit but my wheels have neutral offset so it will look wierd.
I got it with the car so who cares.
Whats with your buds exhaust? is that wank factor or did I miss something?
is that a 200/240SX? he running the KA or an SR/RB?
Thats a fucking awsome wing on that red car in the back though, looks like it adds atleast 8 horses.
The entire car is a pun on everything, from ricers to internet phenomena. He's currently using a CA18, its a european 200sx. RB25DET is a swap for wannabee drifters, cause it makes it too easy with the enormous power and front weight he always says.
the RB25 is more of a marketing gimmick, lets you say "omg skyline engine in a silvia chassis, wtfwinlol" but in the car world 2 good things dont always make a better thing or even a good thing. The RB25 makes the front end of the car too heavy, get some cheap tires on the back and some hard chinese springs and you can do some clutch kick type "drifting" but you wont win any races with it.
We'll just have to wait and see what the new Fast and Furious movie is going to do to its ricerockets before we can really predict what the next trend will be. Ziptie stitching will be in there somewhere I think, so will "drift damage".
As I understand it drifting is the fastest growing motorsport.
I just hope they whore the s13 like they did with the s2000, skyline and supra so it raises the value of my car.
Best engine for a silvia I think is the SR20DET of of the Pulsar GTiR
Independent throttle bodies.
Lets see that Honda you drive man.
You got ITBs on that?
Lol nope, but i got a B18C6 soon... my B16a1 blew up lol.
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/845/sebasuh6.jpg
But: lower now / B18c / Removed gay ass honda stickers / buddyclub wheel nuts
Sunroof is CF resin.
That is stealth as hell...
The B18 makes some pretty respectable power for a 1.8 NA, I dont think a CA18DE could come close to matching it.
Is that a CF hood I see?
You done any other work to it? suspension/brakes/pipes?
You using a vtec controller?
APEXi makes a black SAFC II that also has a vtec controller, seen them kicking in at around 5200 to 5700rpm
Is your honda JDM or eurospec? I only ask because I wonder what sort of suspension it has, I believe american hondas dont get double wishbone, dont know if that is the case with the EDM hondas.
It's EDM, full D2 3 way adjustable suspension, not the best shit around (lol) but a really good price performance ratio, dont see why one should spend double to get a tein set.
CF hood yes, brakes are Goodrich steel lines, ferodo pads, powerslot rotors, edm rear disc brakes. Brakes like a real nasty, car weighs in at like 1000kg empty so this setup brakes fine for street use.
Aint got a vtec controller, most wankers buy those to set their vtec to like 3000 rpm cause they think it sounds good and gives them shitloads of performance gain... lol.
So i just got a custom ecu which has shiftlight (warning light on dash goes on when you need to shift), when brake is pressed and when car is standing still and not in gear rpm is limited to 4000 till it reaches like 10 km/h, which prevents mad wheelspin and makes dragging easy..
I do have double wishbone suspension, it handles like an absolute kart.
Gay ass Invidia Catback with tuningshop made header and empty catalytic converter... Makes the best noise in a tunnel thou..
All round nonamebrand steel strutbars.
Nonamebrand Cold air intake with Apex'i filter xD
B18C jdm spec outputs around 200hp standard...
I thought about hollowing out my cat but if you do that it is no longer a road legal infraction, EPA comes after you with massive fines, didnt seem worth it to me. so I picked up a highflow heavy metal cat with a dent in it, I can actually see through the ports unlike the old one and its 3" instead of 2 like the stock one.
I gotta tiptoe around the rules a lot to keep the car legal, makes it worth more money that way.
I thought about getting a full ecu like a haltech, power FC or something, but those are hard to find 2nd hand, people dont tend to upgrade out of those, the SAFC seems to work pretty good for the moment.
Ive never driven a honda but I was told by a few people that they lack some grunt out of vtec, but I was also told that Vtec didnt add that much either and that different vtecs kick in harder on different engines.
Thats why I figured a vtec controler to bring that down a few rpms might of been the go, although I think 3000 is a bit to low, I dont think I hit boost until 4,000 with mine and im running a t28bb, low lag turbo.
I actually dynoed and found out that for the b16 atleast, best powercurve was to UP the vtec from 5200 to 5900 rpm.
Believe me it does kick in, and it does add power, the dohc vtecs are uncomparable with the sohc vtecs, try to get a ride in a civic type R or integra R next time your at a meeting. Those will give you a fair impression of what vtec is about, fun basicly.
CRX in stock form does 0-62mph in 7 seconds... mine does it in close to 5... People who look at how hard vtec kicks in don't see the point of it, the smoother your powercurve the better, and vtec is optimising the engine for high rpm's, my new B18 gets me to 8600 rpm fast.
the vtec switchover is amazing, drives like a reasonably sane car right up until the switchover and then youre thrown back in your seat
i find the original civic type r's chassis resonates once vtec is in though :/
A guy I know picked up an intergra R for 9k, its got all the stuff inside, the recaro seats, momo wheel, the random Cfiber bits and really stiff suspension, good brakes, the type R package but it doesnt seem to have any balls. I was beating him with my back then stock sil no problem.
He probably got ripped off in the engine department, but then again I dont know anything about hondas so Im not one to say anything.
Ive been told that Vtec on an s2000 is a lot more noticable than on a civic R. I dont seem to see many hondas around here, lots of nissans and toyotas though.
the type r's are still front wheel driven, and dont push >200bhp (not sure on the official figures but the integra is 10-15bhp higher than the civic)
the vtec switchover is amazing, drives like a reasonably sane car right up until the switchover and then youre thrown back in your seat
i find the original civic type r's chassis resonates once vtec is in though :/
Obv I have to stop getting my honda information from bums and gypsies, my impressions are all wrong.
If they were cheaper I would buy a beater and do it up in my driveway, I have a feeling I am almost done with my Sil.
Fast and Furious really overpriced hondas, skylines and supras. Initial D did it to the trueno too.
Its the corporations...
its down to the wannabes you mean :)
yea sort of, but at the end of the day I want to make money/not lose too much money from this little project of mine. Keeping my product compatible with the mass-market (ricers) is one of the best and easiest ways to do it.
when I sell it I plan to give it some ridiculous tribal paint job, stick a giant dragon sticker on it some kanji that reads something like "spirit of the wind". Im keeping the wing though, for my next car.
That will fetch a better price than actual quality of the build.
I think passion is the only thing that keeps me from cutting every corner in the book.
if ur driving it around as ur own car then ofc ur going to want the best
two options, either your mate doesnt know how to vtec, or engine sucked.
I am thinking maybe his engine sucks and he might of bought a donor car which doesnt have the right engine in it...9k for a type R is way too cheap. I havent driven it but even if I did I wouldnt know. I let him drive my car but he wont let me drive his...lame. The inside is really good though, built like a swiss watch.
even the type r's run out of steam at around 150mph, they aren't high speed cars, just nippy if you keep it in the zone
Ah, I bypassed the speedcap on my Sil with an RSM, speedo only goes up to 180kms. Racing those souped up V8s from a rolling start is really tough, as far as I can tell, in regards to top speed. Displacement=King.
3500rpms in 5th is "highway cruising". my buddies V8 cruises at almost idle.
i miss my old civic coupe sometimes but i did make a killing selling it just after fast and furious (first one) came out since it was the same as teh 3 black ones everyone wanted one so think i made about a grand on it was great :)
still not a patch on the beast atm :)
Ah, I bypassed the speedcap on my Sil with an RSM, speedo only goes up to 180kms. Racing those souped up V8s from a rolling start is really tough, as far as I can tell, in regards to top speed. Displacement=King.
3500rpms in 5th is "highway cruising". my buddies V8 cruises at almost idle.
surely crusing rpm is down to the gearbox less the engine
the more torquey v8's can drag higher ratioed boxes at lower rpm hense needing less rpm to cruise at same speed as a smaller car that needs much higher rpm.
3k rpm in mine is 90mph for example but 90mph in the missus's little 4 cyl jobbie is like 4.5krpm
this is why i love my diesel ^_^
If I plant my foot I can actually see the gas needle creeping down. 5-6 liter cars have a lot of grunt and pull really tall gear ratios.
In theory I think you could put a muscle car gearbox into an import, but if you drive around with too much load on the engine, as in not moving fast enough in the wrong gear the engine could detonate. Then you gotta get a new one :P
Muscle cars are probably more fuel efficient on the highway, also their engines will run on jack daniels and dirt. I keep having to put in vortex 98 in mine and thats like 70 bucks a tank.
premium in japan is 100 octanes, and the S13 ships with an ecu tuned for 100 octanes, its killing me!
@ Hinch, Im hoping the new Fast and Furious whores out S13s, heard there was an Initial D movie coming out, dunno what the exposure on something like would be, hopefuly good.
Diesels are pretty badass, they run massive compression.
Lets see your car!
its nothing special :( i wont humiliate myself
wouldnt remapping your ecu solve your petrol requirements?
It might, but I think I would need an aftermarket ECU, a dyno, and a tech guy with a laptop to do it. At the moment ive got an SAFC II which isnt really up to doing that sort of thing, its a piggy back ecu. The guys I know with really souped up cars run 98 or more with octane boosters so I think at the end of the day I would end up doing the same anyways.
POAST YOAR CAR!
it's something you as a tuner just haveto give for your boost car, id NEVER have a turbocharged car with low grade petrol in it..
can't see them whoring s13's next tbh especially since s14's are so so so much nicer (first f&f had an s14) not to mention the japs are already out on the s15's and s16's should be due within the next 12 months
carl, no point in posting my car...
google for an opel astra 1.7 cdti ^_^
pixel i could have sworn you were english from like oldham or something or am i mixing you up with someone else
clearly mixing me up with somebody else :)
Why not RX7 FD3S ROTARY POWAR ^__^ Shit, the sound of a tuned RX7 just is sexy as can be... If they use that in F&F imma cry cry cry...
rx7 has been used in F&F too...
they used it in the first one and 2nd one.
if they're making a new one then you'll expect it'll be the latest and greatest cars rather than old ones.
expect to see
evo 10's
hatchback scooby's :(
gt-r's
rx8's
and such
Those are ugly fuckrs tbh... such a shame.:ninja:
I didnt like the new evo x either, it strikes me that americans are starting to build cars like the japanese and the japanese are building them like americans.
The evo x just looked so big and non racecar like.
I havent driven one or raced one but im sure they are fast.
do stock lancers come out turbo?
F&F is gonna be a movie, that even if you arnt into ricer culture but into cars just to the slightest you are gonna watch.
Im, gonna go watch it. I might be a closet ricer though.
the evo *is* a family saloon and always has been :)
aye, but the previous evos looked so much smaller, lower, aerodynamic, they looked a lot more dangerous.
Had that big FMIC sticking out of the front, like teeth grinning at you, taunting you to race!
wasnt there a 2 door evo? I know there was a 2 door imprezza, the 22B I think, only 400 ever made.
no i think the evo has always been four door
evo10 looks like an r34 from the front
no i think the evo has always been four door
Correct!
There is one... with "Volker" wheels... German made?
http://www.tuningmag.net/?name=mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-9-tuning-simon-norris
I'd want that thing but mainly to respray it a darkish grey so the carbon parts werent as obvious...
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