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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7696648.stm
I think I want to be sick, they are a greedy evil company.
What the hell appeared in that news segment which made you go on a rant about being sick and that they're an evil company?
Well my ubuntu keeps asking for my residence permit... Also if you want to be sick, you already are, sick thing wanting to be sick sicko!
New Windows 7 interface:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windows-taskbar-previews.jpg
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/windows-media-player-jumplist-227x300.jpg
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/desktop-gadgets.jpg
windows 7 paint:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/paint.jpg
OMG!!!! UPDATED PAINT! I'M SOLD!
you know it!
oh and apparently its faster and more stable. basically from what ive read the development of windows 7 has been driven by the developers and testers rather than the ceos and number crunchers within microsoft. basically (as i work in a software company) this means the developers get to put in and fix what they want to fix, rather than the list of 'features that would be cool' that are usually chosen and specified by management level idiots that have no comprehension of how it will actually work when its finished, followed up by providing a specification that isnt anywhere near what they actually mean...
if this is true, rather than some ceo at microsoft spinning lies, then windows 7 will rock straight out of the box...
Heh, I hope so. Windows Vista is good when you can get it configured to run like XP (disabling security warnings etc.). But Leopard just straight owns it, and Microsoft obviously realizes that. Only thing I use my PC for is gaming. Everything else is done on my Mac. :closedeye
yeah microsoft realise that, apple have suddenly risen from a niche market that wasn't really any competition to a desktop computing vendor in the couple of years of vistas existence... they wouldn't not notice that... :)
ZoneseeK
29-10-2008, 19:12
I wonder how long until apple sells the Mac OS for pc's, considering macs are just overpriced pc's anyway they may aswell.
i don't know, but now that the architectures are nearly identical and that mac os x is derived from freebsd there is absolutely nothing stopping them
you can already got macos to run on standard off the shelf pc hardware just a case of knowing how :)
oh yeah i know its possible, i was gonna set up a machine at some point using the 'current supported hardware' list and install efi + darwin on it but just haven't got around to it... think zone was stating one day they'll make it legal/easy :)
you can already got macos to run on standard off the shelf pc hardware just a case of knowing how :)
hinch has found the osx86 wiki :(
meh theres an article on how to install darwin on a pc on the register
meh theres an article on how to install darwin on a pc on the register
Were getting oftopic here btw, the topic is Windows 7 not Mac OS
I just think its ridiculous that vista hasn't been out 5 flipping minutes and most are still using winXP and now they want to bring out another OS? Greedy fat pigs thats what M$ is, instead of trying to make more profit why can't they continue to improve vista with a free upgrade.
its not rediculous...
vista was developed to CEOs requirements
it sucks
it tried to be innovative but they dropped all the innovative features in order to get it out, that's the reason it was delayed...
windows 7 has said features and has been polished up... vista shouldn't have existed but a company microsofts size cant go that long without an os update
Vista is one buggy processor power and memory hogging piece of shit os, but it looks good!
thats my humble opinion.
I wonder how long until apple sells the Mac OS for pc's, considering macs are just overpriced pc's anyway they may aswell.
One would think it would be smart that they offer the Mac OS for PC's, but on the other hand, lately, with vista, it has boosted sales for them. Advertising using the failure of Vista has been extremely successful. Only time will tell. If Windows 7 does well, they might, I don't think it will be within the next 2 years, though.
the problem with opening mac up for mainstream x86 compatible use is that they will no longer have their definitive list of hardware that will work, and will have to do more intensive testing on a wider range of hardware, in addition to compile their operating system for generic use. at the moment macos is compiled to support the hardware in the machines they want it to run on, and thus is inheritantly more stable on that hardware (the *nix effect) while windows is compiled to run on a generic set of hardware. not only does this have performance issues but it will also mean that occasionally an incompatibility problem arises where the hardware is asked to do something and isn't actually capable of doing so...
Nightbrother
30-10-2008, 10:17
Vista is one buggy processor power and memory hogging piece of shit os, but it looks good!
thats my humble opinion.
It's my opinion as well, and I'm not humble.
vista being buggy isn't an opinion, it's fact. even microsoft admit it...
the problem with opening mac up for mainstream x86 compatible use is that they will no longer have their definitive list of hardware that will work, and will have to do more intensive testing on a wider range of hardware, in addition to compile their operating system for generic use. at the moment macos is compiled to support the hardware in the machines they want it to run on, and thus is inheritantly more stable on that hardware (the *nix effect) while windows is compiled to run on a generic set of hardware. not only does this have performance issues but it will also mean that occasionally an incompatibility problem arises where the hardware is asked to do something and isn't actually capable of doing so...
Rofl, it's all about exclusivity, buy a overpriced but goodlooking mac to have their goodlooking os... They have no interest in just selling mac os (and getting it pirated more and more), now they have the win situation of their design stuff like the MacBook being more popular than the local slut of the week.
ZoneseeK
30-10-2008, 16:42
Vista is one buggy processor power and memory hogging piece of shit os, but it looks good!
thats my humble opinion.
Vista is fine if you dumb it down and disable about 20 services that come enabled out of the box, and if you have the machine to handle it.
Problem is theres still tons of PC's being sold that aren't beefy enough to handle it, in my opinion, and it runs like shit out of the box.
So if id sell you a car which needed like 50 hours of work do drive decently youd buy it too? or just say fuck it ill keep my old one, might not have all kinds of fancy shit i dont need but it works better.
vista runs very very badly out of the box, ive even disabled services on my work pc and my work pc is a beast
ZoneseeK
30-10-2008, 17:48
I run vista on my main machine at home, and it flies. I am by no means a vista supporter, but Vista64 on my gaming rig is bomb. I have had zero problems with it, and it performs just as well as XP did on here.
s'all about the configuration... windows 7 is going to rock though
Microsoft is reducing its four Windows-compatible logos, responsible for confusion and a classaction lawsuit, down to single system for consumers and partners.
Partners that want compatibility with Windows Vista's successor operating system, Windows 7, will only have to navigate a single certification program Microsoft said Wednesday, and consumers need to look for just a single sticker on their PCs, peripherals or software.
Out will go the four current stickers and programs that certify PCs as either capable of running the full Windows Vista or Windows Vista "basic", and the "certified for Windows Vista" and "works with Windows Vista" for software and devices.
Gary Schare, direct of Microsoft's hardware ecosystem product management, told The Reg during Microsoft's Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) in Los Angeles, California, it's too early to say what the final sticker would look like.
He did say, though, there would be stickers for different machines running Windows 7 such as PCs, touch-screen devices, and media centers.
Schare said the multiple Windows Vista stickers had "helped spur innovation" but muddied the logo while making testing and certification confusing and expensive for hardware and software partners.
Uptake of Windows Vista was badly hampered by the chronic lack of third-party hardware and software capable of working with the operating system out of the gate.
"We want to simplify the program to let the consumer know what they are looking for and for the partner to know what they have to do," Schare said.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/06/windows_seven_logos/
I got the windows 7 beta thing running on my laptop atm, i like!
ya i thought about downloading it, just haven't got around to it yet
Windows 7 in time for Christmas? No, not this Christmas - but Christmas 2009.
Microsoft has reportedly told PC and systems engineering partners Windows 7, the successor to Windows Vista, will be on PCs in time for the next holiday season.
That contradicts Microsoft's official party line that Windows 7 would not ship until 2010, three years after Windows Vista received its official launch.
The holiday buying season typically refers to six weeks between US Thanksgiving and the New Year.
If Microsoft is correct, and if this isn't a piece of outdated PowerPoint carrying an old ship date, that could mean OEMs getting Windows 7 by September 2009 at the latest to hit the holiday shopping season.
Microsoft's last big success was Windows XP, which launched in late October 2001, in time for that year's holiday shopping season. Windows XP had been put in the hands of OEM with a release to manufacturing two months earlier, in August that year.
so that means they've realised how fucked up windows vista is and want to end that era of history asap <3
I'm SOO anxious to get the new mspaint, i'm thinking of stealing it from the beta and putting it in xp... It owns photoshop by like 10 miles!!
(well it doesn't but it's still a nice gesture of M$).
Tbh i don't see much differentiation yet from vista, it just feels more solid, starts faster.. Lets pray it gives people a valid reason to upgrade, like xp did at the time...
XP didn't give a valid reason to upgrade at the time :P it was completly revolutionary and based on the nt core instead of the old win95 core... no hardware worked with it properly and it's graphical capabilities were limited at first due to not many people creating drivers for windows 2000 (also nt core) when it first came out... xp had a slowest takeup out of all microsoft operating systems, and strangely enough followed another of their flopped attempts at making an os (windows ME) - anybody else see a pattern emerging of 'one terrible os, one reasonable os to clean it up'? :)
I run vista on my main machine at home, and it flies. I am by no means a vista supporter, but Vista64 on my gaming rig is bomb. I have had zero problems with it, and it performs just as well as XP did on here.
What's your setup, Zone?
I haven't tried Vista on my new rig yet, but if your hardware is similar to mine, I'd give it a try :)
Uhh, all my hardware just worked fine, nvidia/ati brought out drivers for their graphics when xp was beta so... Obviously it took longer to start, but due to it actually being able to end nonresponding programs you'd miss rebooting about 5 times a day.
Windows ME LOL...
windows me should be officially renamed to "windows lol"
windows me should be officially renamed to "windows lol"
It's the biggest fail in the computing world tbh.. I'd rather run O/S2 warp than that piece of shiet... Upgrading to that from 98se was like 10 steps backward and paying for it... :ninja:
windows me should be officially renamed to "windows lol"
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2853/fawindowsea8.jpg
lol
i has mad photoshop-skillz
ZoneseeK
10-11-2008, 23:57
What's your setup, Zone?
I haven't tried Vista on my new rig yet, but if your hardware is similar to mine, I'd give it a try :)
core 2 extreme qx9650
4gb patriot low latency ddr800
3x500gb standard sata2 drives
asus en8800gts 640meg
8gb patriot 200x readyboost usb stick
creative sound card, etc random other stuff that doesn't matter
the maching is 2~ years old now, i gave it 3 upgrades before going vista:
core2duo 6600 -> core2extreme qx9650, because it was free
2gb ddr800 -> 4gb low latency ddr800
8gb patriot readyboost ready usb stick
i actually ran vista on the above system with the core2duo in it for about a month because i got a liquid cooled system it was a 4~ hour ordeal to switch the processor and i was lazy, the system killed vista even with the core2duo, didn't really notice any performance change in the o/s when changing processors
running vista ultimate x64, stripped all the stupid services and garbage off it, runs like a clock i have zero complaints, and im not a m$ or vista fanboi, i mainly installed it because I HAVE to know vista for work, and the best way to really get to know it is to use it myself, it was my main motivation.
is windows 7 faster or just 'smarter'?
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/11/10/windows-7-faster-or-just-smarter/
But ultimately I see Windows 7 much as I see the latest edition of Norton Internet Security. In both cases, previous versions acquired – with some justice – a reputation for terrible performance. In both cases, that’s now been fixed. We can kvetch all we want about how and when it should have been fixed, but the fact is that the battle is over. If you feel you were ripped off in the past, you can signal your displeasure by choosing a competing product now; but arguably it sends a clearer message to invest in a fixed product than to boycott it. Plus, this way you get the thing you really wanted, albeit late.
ah, ok
i think ill wait with installing vista on my system then :)
i have E8400 duo cpu
4gb corsair ddr2 ram
geforce 9800 gtx
and so on, so ill stick to XP for now :p
yeah ive been following windows 7 quite closely, got the beta installed in a virtual pc but its activation has already expired :(
ZoneseeK
11-11-2008, 15:29
yeah ive been following windows 7 quite closely, got the beta installed in a virtual pc but its activation has already expired :(
Microsoft.Windows.7.32Bit.Build.6801.DVD-WinBeta
im sure 6801 was the one i was testing, i will check when i get home
uh install it without cdkey and no activation needed...
ofc i installed it with no cd key, it still said it had expired :p
Huh all i heard about it from the guys at winbeta (yeah i know some of those) says its only timebombed for somewhere 02/09
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